The Fourth Way is one of the most comprehensive texts published of the ideas taught by the late P. Consisting of verbatim records of his oral teaching from to , it gives a lucid explanation of the practical side of G. Just as Tertium Organum deals with a new mode of thinking, so The Fourth Way is concerned with a new way of living. It shows a way of inner development to be followed under the ordinary conditions of life — as distinct from the three traditional ways that call for retirement from the world: those of the fakir, the monk, and the yogi. The Fourth Way is a guide for those who seek a true way of inner growth under conditions open to the men and women of today.
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Gurdjieff's teachings, which Gurdjieff presented in the form of raw materials, Ouspensky's specific task having been to put th The Fourth Way is the most comprehensive statement thus far published of the ideas taught by the late P.
Gurdjieff's teachings, which Gurdjieff presented in the form of raw materials, Ouspensky's specific task having been to put them together as a systematic whole.
Just as Tertium Organum deals with a new mode of thinking, so The Fourth Way is concerned with a new way of living. It shows a way of inner development to be followed under the ordinary conditions of life -- as distinct from the three traditional ways that call for retirement from the world: those of the fakir, the monk, and the yogi. The Fourth Way is a guide for those who seek a true way of inner growth under conditions open to the men and women of today. Get A Copy.
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Lists with This Book. Community Reviews. Showing Average rating 4. Rating details. More filters. Sort order. Start your review of The Fourth Way. Aug 02, Scot rated it really liked it. This book took me six months to crawl through and though painful at times was worth the effort. It mirrored in many ways my own journey in terms of timing and though I could not pretend to have initiated the level of effort the Ouspensky says that we need to wake up from our slumber, from time to time I catch glimpses and that reminder alone was worth the read.
I would not recommend this book for anyone that is not naturally drawn toward it and would say if you are interested in the ideas of G.
I This book took me six months to crawl through and though painful at times was worth the effort. Gurdjieff there are many easier places to start. For me though this was an excellent place to begin because it mirrored the journey and was a reminder that no matter how complex and difficult life and the world can seem at times, patience, reflection, and effort are rewarded.
If you are interested in digging in start with Toward Awakening by Jean Vaysse. Oct 23, Steve rated it it was amazing. Classic Ouspensky, also try and read Gurdjieff if you can, it will blow your mind! May 19, Tobey rated it it was ok.
When I read this book it literally made me angry to know just how flawed the teachings and the way it is taught is.
There are quite a lot of concepts covered, but the main ones are that we are not conscious, do not self-remember, are mechanical and have 4 centers: moving, instinctive, emotional and intellectual. The idea in principle is good; that we need to work toward self-development and growth by becoming more aware of the multiple "Is" that we have through the centers and understanding how When I read this book it literally made me angry to know just how flawed the teachings and the way it is taught is.
The idea in principle is good; that we need to work toward self-development and growth by becoming more aware of the multiple "Is" that we have through the centers and understanding how they can be used appropriately to transform ourselves. The problem is that Ouspensky hides behind words and fails to explore his ideas any further than what he wants to focus on.
He doesn't explain why we lack consciousness and why we don't self-remember. If you take it by it's literal definition, we are conscious and we do self-remember.
I am aware of myself, my surroundings and can remember it. So what does he mean by it? Its his own made up definition of these words. So if he has his own definitions then he should firstly call it something else, secondly explain what he means by those definitions and lastly provide evidence for the phenomenon behind the definitions.
But when you look at the dialogue between Ouspensky and the other person, they are insistently asking what Ouspensky means by some of his definitions, but he refuses to answer and repeatedly says "figure it out for yourself by practice and you will understand". The problem is there is no way to figure it out, because we don't know what to work on. If we try to 'self-remember' then we might think we're self-remembering when we're really not. And since we have no definitions or explanations for it then its pointless to tell us to do something that we don't know.
The vagueness of his terminology not only becomes a problem for practice, but also for validity. How do we know that we actually aren't conscious or able to self-remember? Ouspensky doesn't substantiate his claims. He just tells people to accept his ideas and practice it. This is what irritates me the most.
He acts like some authority who has special knowledge over others without actually caring to explain why his knowledge is factually accurate.
He just makes the assumption that people will believe whatever he says and that they should learn how to practice it on their own. Believing in his ideas without actually seeing results is blind faith. It is making people work toward something that isn't even a sure thing. The responses to the questions are also quite disturbing. Usually the person who is asking the questions doesn't understand a shred of what he's saying, they ask for clarification and Ouspensky looks down on them for not understanding.
Again, it is him acting like an authority who has special knowledge. He is an elitist and a false prophet, who again, hides behind his words. I can't put it any less harshly. But when I put my feelings aside and try to interpret the meaning of his ideas without explicitly knowing , they still don't make sense.
From what I gather, what he means by lacking consciousness is the fact that we are constantly doing things without knowing the reasons why we do it - which according to the system means that we are mechanical. To put it in psychological terms that actually make sense this is the distinction between automatic and controlled thinking.
I agree that oftentimes we are more in the automatic state and seldom in the controlled state. But this doesn't mean we need to always be controlled.
Automatic thinking serves a purpose. If we were always controlled in our thinking it would be impossible to filter out certain information and would result in information overload. Self-remembering in the system really means that we often forget why we act in certain ways. Some ways we act contradict each other.
We are also unable to remember a total self that is congruent with all sides of ourselves. Again, this is true. But he goes to the lengths to say that if we have positive emotions one minute and negative emotions another minute it is not self-remembering, because we're contradicting ourselves.
This isn't true at all. For example, I could be trying to relax, which is positive, but when someone interrupts me I get angry, which is negative. They are both perfectly congruent with one another, but Ouspensky acts like it isn't. Which brings me to why Ouspensky has no grasp on emotions.
He basically says that there are "wrong emotions" and that there are "right emotions" and that the "wrong" ones need to be discarded. The wrong emotions are basically negative emotions: anger, sadness, anxiety etc. But anyone with a basic understanding of the human psyche knows that these emotions serve a useful purpose.
The Fourth Way obviously implies three other ways. All ways lead to the same end: the awakening of consciousness in man. However, each reaches that destination via different means. The three ways stem from the the three possible centers of gravity in man. The Way of the Fakir corresponds to the moving-instinctive man; the Way of the Monk to emotional man; and the Way of the Yogi to intellectual man. Since consciousness stands separate from functions, the three ways yield the same result.
The Fourth Way
The Fourth Way  is an approach to self-development developed by George Gurdjieff over years of travel in the East c. It combines and harmonizes what he saw as three established traditional "ways" or "schools": those of the emotions, the body, and the mind, or of monks, fakirs , and yogis, respectively. The exact origins of some of Gurdjieff's teachings are unknown, but various sources have been suggested. The term "Fourth Way" was further used by his student P. Ouspensky in his lectures and writings. After Ouspensky's death, his students published a book entitled The Fourth Way based on his lectures. According to this system, the three traditional schools, or ways, "are permanent forms which have survived throughout history mostly unchanged, and are based on religion.
Ouspensky on the Fourth Way
It is a compilation of the lectures of P. Ouspensky at London and New York City between the years through , published posthumously by his students in The term " The Fourth Way " has also come to be used as a general descriptive term for the body of ideas and teachings which Gurdjieff brought to the west from his study of eastern schools. Ouspensky was given the task of bringing these ideas to a wider audience in an unadulterated form by Gurdjieff.